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		<title>By: Dec1963</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dec1963</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always knew I was a Gen-X.</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Sohigian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Sohigian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 02:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rachael - I was a little dissatisfied after writing it as well :-)

I meant to play a bit of Devil&#039;s Advocate in the post. Part of my (convoluted) point is exactly what you said: instead of focusing on blaming Silents, Boomer, X&#039;ers or Millennials we should just get on with solving the problems in the present. By blaming the GI&#039;s, who are mostly dead, perhaps we can move on to action instead of moralizing and blaming. Every person and generations has a particular character and makes particular mistakes. The goal, in my mind, is to figure out how to work with those personalities to create something better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rachael &#8211; I was a little dissatisfied after writing it as well <img src='http://www.thegenxfiles.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I meant to play a bit of Devil&#8217;s Advocate in the post. Part of my (convoluted) point is exactly what you said: instead of focusing on blaming Silents, Boomer, X&#8217;ers or Millennials we should just get on with solving the problems in the present. By blaming the GI&#8217;s, who are mostly dead, perhaps we can move on to action instead of moralizing and blaming. Every person and generations has a particular character and makes particular mistakes. The goal, in my mind, is to figure out how to work with those personalities to create something better.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachael.Linares</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachael.Linares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 22:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. That was quite a read. I will admit I was highly intrigued by the title of this post, and yet after reading it I feel slightly disatisfied. I can see how it might be beneficial when researching to narrow things down by looking at a group of people instead of individuals but to blame a group for our current crisis seems a little far fetched. Maybe not every individual in the GI generation believed in creating these so called &quot;unsustainable&quot; institutions. But obviously the people in crucial roles did (president) therefore the whole survival of the fittest notion. I guess what I am trying to say is blaming a generation seems like the wrong area to be placing our energy. We should seek to understand past generations mistakes, successes etc. then move on to SOLVING the present. Still intersting to read posts like these.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. That was quite a read. I will admit I was highly intrigued by the title of this post, and yet after reading it I feel slightly disatisfied. I can see how it might be beneficial when researching to narrow things down by looking at a group of people instead of individuals but to blame a group for our current crisis seems a little far fetched. Maybe not every individual in the GI generation believed in creating these so called &#8220;unsustainable&#8221; institutions. But obviously the people in crucial roles did (president) therefore the whole survival of the fittest notion. I guess what I am trying to say is blaming a generation seems like the wrong area to be placing our energy. We should seek to understand past generations mistakes, successes etc. then move on to SOLVING the present. Still intersting to read posts like these.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Sohigian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Sohigian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@globaltrader, I watched that Frontline a few days ago, but I suspect the conclusions I drew from it were different than yours. What did you get out of the program?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@globaltrader, I watched that Frontline a few days ago, but I suspect the conclusions I drew from it were different than yours. What did you get out of the program?</p>
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		<title>By: globaltrader</title>
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		<dc:creator>globaltrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tentrillion/view/</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Sohigian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Sohigian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Scot, thanks for your thoughtful reply. I agree that there are a lot of problems with the institutions we have created, and younger generations are going to have to restructure and deal with creating new ones for our modern times. As a Gen X&#039;er (born between 1961-1981) I never felt that good grades and a college degree would get me much of anything (even though I got both). The American Dream always felt like something foreign to me, and I think that is true for much of my generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Scot, thanks for your thoughtful reply. I agree that there are a lot of problems with the institutions we have created, and younger generations are going to have to restructure and deal with creating new ones for our modern times. As a Gen X&#8217;er (born between 1961-1981) I never felt that good grades and a college degree would get me much of anything (even though I got both). The American Dream always felt like something foreign to me, and I think that is true for much of my generation.</p>
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		<title>By: Scot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a gen X / gen Y&#039;er, I feel like the promise that previous generations made to mine was that as long as you get good grades and good SAT scores and get a college degree (bachelors), you&#039;re good to go, and you will be successful.  They must have thought this was the case, because they financed the schooling.

The idea of the American Dream seems to be that as long as you do those things, you&#039;re bound to be employable.  And if you&#039;re employable, you&#039;re bound to be able to afford to buy the things that people think of -- the house, the car, and the white picket fence.   Which was probably true of previous generations, but not mine.

What I notice is that there&#039;s inflation about what education and experience you&#039;re thought to need to do a job.  A person needs a 8 year degree to be even considered for example to work in a library.  And that library job is not a well-paying one.  

Education inflation&#039;s part of something I like to call &quot;the institutionalization of everything.&quot; 

Another part of this phenomenon is working for big companies.  Today, most people my age (20s-30s in 2009) graduate, and work for someone else.  Nobody teaches basic things like how to start your own business, be independent, take responsibility, how to take calculated risks, etc.  What they teach you is to continue being part of an organization.  

I think the problem&#039;s not that there&#039;s too much freedom for individuals.  In fact, the average joe probably has less freedom than he would have 50 years ago.  I think the problem&#039;s that these large institutions, like schools, governments and big corporations are crushing our opportunities, and we go work for someone else.  It&#039;s the &quot;institutionalization of everything.&quot;  

Example: If your grandpa wanted to start a coffee shop after getting out of WWII, he&#039;d just go start it.  Now there are big rules about that, and you also have the Starbucks&#039; of the world to contend with.  People don&#039;t think about this when they go work for Starbucks.   Starbucks has lobbyists.  How am I supposed to compete with that?

Example: Especially way back in my great-grandparents&#039; generation, local small business ruled the roost.  They owned a bakery and were self-sufficient.  People grew cabbages in their front lawn.  I get mine from Mexico, shipped all the way to Ohio.

All I&#039;m saying is corporations and institutions do things they think are good.  The price of good coffee goes down because Starbucks has millions of stores.  But there are unintended consequences of everything.    People are creatures of habit and they like consistency, so they love Starbucks and not having to grow cabbage.  

My generation is paying the price for this institution-big-business way of thinking.  And I&#039;m afraid there&#039;s no going back.  Big companies are efficient at what they do - but it sucks the life out of you.  Your actions appear to have no consequences.  

The current crisis comes not from any generation, but from institutional policies to allow lending to people and other banks without considering risk: http://tinyurl.com/cobtqg

Big companies did clever accounting to make big profits.  And now we&#039;re bailing them out.  The only way we know how: through another institution: government.  Taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a gen X / gen Y&#8217;er, I feel like the promise that previous generations made to mine was that as long as you get good grades and good SAT scores and get a college degree (bachelors), you&#8217;re good to go, and you will be successful.  They must have thought this was the case, because they financed the schooling.</p>
<p>The idea of the American Dream seems to be that as long as you do those things, you&#8217;re bound to be employable.  And if you&#8217;re employable, you&#8217;re bound to be able to afford to buy the things that people think of &#8212; the house, the car, and the white picket fence.   Which was probably true of previous generations, but not mine.</p>
<p>What I notice is that there&#8217;s inflation about what education and experience you&#8217;re thought to need to do a job.  A person needs a 8 year degree to be even considered for example to work in a library.  And that library job is not a well-paying one.  </p>
<p>Education inflation&#8217;s part of something I like to call &#8220;the institutionalization of everything.&#8221; </p>
<p>Another part of this phenomenon is working for big companies.  Today, most people my age (20s-30s in 2009) graduate, and work for someone else.  Nobody teaches basic things like how to start your own business, be independent, take responsibility, how to take calculated risks, etc.  What they teach you is to continue being part of an organization.  </p>
<p>I think the problem&#8217;s not that there&#8217;s too much freedom for individuals.  In fact, the average joe probably has less freedom than he would have 50 years ago.  I think the problem&#8217;s that these large institutions, like schools, governments and big corporations are crushing our opportunities, and we go work for someone else.  It&#8217;s the &#8220;institutionalization of everything.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Example: If your grandpa wanted to start a coffee shop after getting out of WWII, he&#8217;d just go start it.  Now there are big rules about that, and you also have the Starbucks&#8217; of the world to contend with.  People don&#8217;t think about this when they go work for Starbucks.   Starbucks has lobbyists.  How am I supposed to compete with that?</p>
<p>Example: Especially way back in my great-grandparents&#8217; generation, local small business ruled the roost.  They owned a bakery and were self-sufficient.  People grew cabbages in their front lawn.  I get mine from Mexico, shipped all the way to Ohio.</p>
<p>All I&#8217;m saying is corporations and institutions do things they think are good.  The price of good coffee goes down because Starbucks has millions of stores.  But there are unintended consequences of everything.    People are creatures of habit and they like consistency, so they love Starbucks and not having to grow cabbage.  </p>
<p>My generation is paying the price for this institution-big-business way of thinking.  And I&#8217;m afraid there&#8217;s no going back.  Big companies are efficient at what they do &#8211; but it sucks the life out of you.  Your actions appear to have no consequences.  </p>
<p>The current crisis comes not from any generation, but from institutional policies to allow lending to people and other banks without considering risk: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/cobtqg" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/cobtqg</a></p>
<p>Big companies did clever accounting to make big profits.  And now we&#8217;re bailing them out.  The only way we know how: through another institution: government.  Taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Sohigian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Sohigian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@susan - I am not a fan of Ayn Rand, but I agree with your point about our crisis being a joint project. I just saw an article in Fast Company or Wired about how successful NPR has become. Your comment makes me want to read it carefully for signs of what you have seen in the CBC.

I will say that we judge the Millennial Generation too harshly if we really believe they are less educated than previous generations. They may be the &quot;everyone get&#039;s a trophy&quot; generation, but many of them have earned it through hard work. They may also act entitled, but that does not mean they are incompetent. Comparing grades, SAT scores, social responsibility, and many other factors, they come out WAY ahead of Gen X. Not to say that we don&#039;t have our strong points :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@susan &#8211; I am not a fan of Ayn Rand, but I agree with your point about our crisis being a joint project. I just saw an article in Fast Company or Wired about how successful NPR has become. Your comment makes me want to read it carefully for signs of what you have seen in the CBC.</p>
<p>I will say that we judge the Millennial Generation too harshly if we really believe they are less educated than previous generations. They may be the &#8220;everyone get&#8217;s a trophy&#8221; generation, but many of them have earned it through hard work. They may also act entitled, but that does not mean they are incompetent. Comparing grades, SAT scores, social responsibility, and many other factors, they come out WAY ahead of Gen X. Not to say that we don&#8217;t have our strong points <img src='http://www.thegenxfiles.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does seem to me that the current crisis is a joint project contributed to by many generations and forces. I blame anyone who has not read Ayn Rand critically - here we have a rather painful lesson that de-regulating banks can lead to disaster, and that allowing governments to become little more than rubber-stamps for industry rather than real leaders who keep long term goals for society in mind can create a country whose manufacturing base deteriorates into a meaningless service economy.  I worked with young people recently, and frequently tried to get them interested in getting into politics  if they showed signs of both intelligence, awareness and a burning drive to make things better - but they always seemed to reject the idea as being something that &quot;someone better&quot; could do - I think if we all wait for that &quot;someone better&quot; to come along and fix things, we will be waiting a long time. 
I am not an economist, but that is my view - and I was able to predict the real estate &quot;downturn&quot; of 1990 and act accordingly. 
As a Canadian, I see what is happening at the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation lately as a microcosm of this effect.  Profit-motive managers in charge there are systematically destroying anything worthwhile in the network. They bring in the most peurile American sitcoms to alienate their audience, try to make money on the nonprofit style programs such as news and current affairs but do that by removing any of their edge or meaning, and try to make their entertainment programming socially redeemable thereby making them humourless and turgid. Oh, but occasionally they try to sell with sex and sensationalism and end up with something as pathetic as the Tudors series.  They couldn&#039;t stay with providing excellent Canadian style programs and providing a unique and objective Canadian voice - they had to go trying to provide a watered down version of a big corporate network.  The end result is that they are losing viewers in the droves and therefore sinking any value their commercial space may have had. It seems that relentlessly chasing the dollar can lead you to chase it right into the gutter. Especially when there is no knowledge behind these changes.  Perhaps again it comes down to education - I am shocked at how uneducated doctors are compared to doctors of my parents generation, OR doctors trained in other cultures (such as India or France) where education still has standards.  Teachers should not be afraid to fail students, to mark hard, to challenge the class with hard work, and to not have their classes be &quot;fun&quot;. So many young people are bored out of their minds with school - you can&#039;t set a whole education system to the least intelligent child - I am sorry, some kids DO get left behind - and then maybe they become excellent workers who leave school early and live happily ever after.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does seem to me that the current crisis is a joint project contributed to by many generations and forces. I blame anyone who has not read Ayn Rand critically &#8211; here we have a rather painful lesson that de-regulating banks can lead to disaster, and that allowing governments to become little more than rubber-stamps for industry rather than real leaders who keep long term goals for society in mind can create a country whose manufacturing base deteriorates into a meaningless service economy.  I worked with young people recently, and frequently tried to get them interested in getting into politics  if they showed signs of both intelligence, awareness and a burning drive to make things better &#8211; but they always seemed to reject the idea as being something that &#8220;someone better&#8221; could do &#8211; I think if we all wait for that &#8220;someone better&#8221; to come along and fix things, we will be waiting a long time.<br />
I am not an economist, but that is my view &#8211; and I was able to predict the real estate &#8220;downturn&#8221; of 1990 and act accordingly.<br />
As a Canadian, I see what is happening at the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation lately as a microcosm of this effect.  Profit-motive managers in charge there are systematically destroying anything worthwhile in the network. They bring in the most peurile American sitcoms to alienate their audience, try to make money on the nonprofit style programs such as news and current affairs but do that by removing any of their edge or meaning, and try to make their entertainment programming socially redeemable thereby making them humourless and turgid. Oh, but occasionally they try to sell with sex and sensationalism and end up with something as pathetic as the Tudors series.  They couldn&#8217;t stay with providing excellent Canadian style programs and providing a unique and objective Canadian voice &#8211; they had to go trying to provide a watered down version of a big corporate network.  The end result is that they are losing viewers in the droves and therefore sinking any value their commercial space may have had. It seems that relentlessly chasing the dollar can lead you to chase it right into the gutter. Especially when there is no knowledge behind these changes.  Perhaps again it comes down to education &#8211; I am shocked at how uneducated doctors are compared to doctors of my parents generation, OR doctors trained in other cultures (such as India or France) where education still has standards.  Teachers should not be afraid to fail students, to mark hard, to challenge the class with hard work, and to not have their classes be &#8220;fun&#8221;. So many young people are bored out of their minds with school &#8211; you can&#8217;t set a whole education system to the least intelligent child &#8211; I am sorry, some kids DO get left behind &#8211; and then maybe they become excellent workers who leave school early and live happily ever after.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, Dave. It makes no more sense to revere one generation than it does to blame another. Great post, BTW, and I enjoy your site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, Dave. It makes no more sense to revere one generation than it does to blame another. Great post, BTW, and I enjoy your site.</p>
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